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Tealin ([personal profile] tealin) wrote2006-03-12 09:58 pm
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An Update, A Rave, and a Rant

Update on the Update:
Once I work out some technical glitches, the updated Discworld page will be up. I didn't realize how much I'd drawn since October ... holy smokes. Pottery updates will come later as there are fewer of them and I'm going to have to figure out how to categorize some of the odder doodles from last year's end-of-the-year sketchbook fill-'er-up. Wheee.

I've managed to catch up on about half the BBC shows I usually listen to [sob] ... Of course, Small Gods had to be one, and even though I only got to hear it in little five minute chunks (many reasons, won't go into them here) it was darn good.
I am most appreciative of how they're keeping it dark and funny at the same time ... so many people would try taking it in either one direction or the other but they're doing it right! It almost makes me forgive them for not casting Andy Hamilton as Om. ;) Anyway, what I was most glad to hear was the little bit about why Om is where he is, the thing about ... well, here, I'll just copy it out of the book.
'I am your God, right?'
'Yes.'
'And you'll obey me.'
'Yes.'
'Good. Now take a rock and go and kill Vorbis.'
Brutha didn't move.
'I'm sure you heard me,' said Om.
'But he'll ... he's ... the Quisition would –'
'Now you know what I mean,' said the tortoise. 'You're more afraid of him than you are of me, now. Abraxas says here: "Around the Godde there forms a Shelle of prayers and Ceremonies and Buildings and Priestes and Authority, until at Last the Godde Dies. Ande this maye notte be noticed."'
'That can't be true!'
'I think it is. Abraxas says there's a kind of shellfish that lives in the same way. It makes a bigger and bigger shell until it can't move around any more, and so it dies.'
Okay, when I first read that, it bowled me over – there it was, in one simple statement, something my mind might skate around (indeed already had a little, or at least seen it over the horizon) for my entire life, but I'd never ever be able to put it in such a simple, strong, compelling image as that. It's probably not the effect our dear Mr Secular-Humanist Pratchett would have wanted, but this image has had a profound effect on my own faith in a good way. It's so easy to get caught up in the rituals and costumes and traditions and forms (especially as a Catholic) that you lose touch with what it's really all about; because of this analogy being presented to me in such a clear and simple image, I make a conscious effort to get through the shell.

Now I shall set out to prove myself an utter hypocrite and rant about one aspect of that shell, the ruddy annoying music our choir director is so fond of. I know I've gone off on this song before but every time it gets performed* I have to vent.

It starts out with the accompaniment that is the same sort of nauseatingly major-key tinkly piano that you get on the credits to anime movies and in the Asian supermarket near my work, and then – then! – come the lyrics. I've quoted a few of them before but for the full effect you really need to read the whole thing:
We believe in God
And we all need Jesus
'Cause life is hard
And it might not get easier

But don't be afraid
To know who you are
Don't be afraid to show it

If you believe in God
If you say you need Jesus
He'll be where you are
And he never will leave you

Sing to me now words that are true
So all in this place can know it...

We believe in God
And we all need Jesus
We believe in God
And we all need Jesus
We believe in God
And we all need Jesus

Sing to me now words that are true
So all in this place can know it...

We believe in God
And we all need Jesus
We believe in God
And we all need Jesus
We believe in God
And we all need Jesus

[and because the original two repetitions weren't enough:]

Sing to me now words that are true
So all in this place can know it...

We believe in God
And we all need Jesus
We believe in God
And we all need Jesus
We believe in God
And we all need Jesus
WHAT THE CRAP?!? It doesn't mean anything! 'Cause life is hard/And it might not get easier? Not only does this not even rhyme, but it simplifies the tremendous power and mystery of a supreme cosmic being into a snuggly teddy bear and/or water wings! What does knowing and showing who you are have to do with the rest of the song? It's only a marginally spiritual sentiment as it is! And, hmm, maybe if we repeat 'We believe in God/And we all need Jesus' enough times, that'll replace the utter gaping lack of depth and meaning! AAARGH! If you want to listen to Amy Grant in your car or at home or blare her out at some Youth Group meeting or something then fine, but IN CHURCH? We're not supposed to be there for shallow platitudes! It's like if the sermon was 'God is nice,' or, as Bananabasket so succinctly observed, the way religious education from grades 1-11 is dumbed down to 'You are special. God loves you.'

ARGH.

* And yes, it is performed: the choir is supposed to lead the congregation, not 'perform,' but this song isn't in any of the congregation's books so they can't sing along, hence it is a performance, and not a very good one at that.

Well, I have to wake up in the actual morning so I'd better take some deep breaths and go to bed.

[identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
You know, I have known only two people to go through Catholic School and remain Catholic when they leave. It's like a vast factory for turning people against the church.

[identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 06:22 am (UTC)(link)
Tealin creativity is a rare commodity ... there's a reason I do 98% fan art: NO IDEAS. None. Whatsoever. Originality is not my forté. Interpretation, fine, and building on someone else's foundation, but original ideas are definitely lacking in my little brainbox.

Re: Singing

[identity profile] disneyboy.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 07:16 am (UTC)(link)
Those last two comments were some of the funniest things I think I've ever heard you say! Amen!
And, hey, Just-Curious has a rapt audience member in me. Tell it like it IS, bruthah! (or Sistah, as the case may be!)

[identity profile] disneyboy.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 07:30 am (UTC)(link)
If only I could use footnotes to keep track of all of my stray, branching thoughts and speech - usually my only hope is to talk to people who are paying closer attention to what I'm saying than I do, so they can help me find my way back to the central thread if I wander too far away (which seems to happen more frequently these days)

Re: What it's all about

[identity profile] disneyboy.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 07:57 am (UTC)(link)
You bring up a very important point I had intended to mention earlier but totally forgot: tradition, ritual, memorization are all crucial for helping a mortal mind to give comprehensible, concrete form to spiritual concepts, covenants, principles, etc. - it makes them "real", it helps us understand and remember them. There's a reason we make such a fuss about a baptism or a wedding or a graduation or a funeral - ritual can have transformative power over the minds and lives of the participants - power to improve, to take a promise seriously (especially if there were witnesses!), to remember a spiritual feeling or insight with a physical activity or a song, etc. And at their best, rituals bind the community closer together. I mean, I love Christmas! I love looking forward to the reliable, the stable, the unchanging traditions that come, year after year, in an unsteady, deteriorating world. I knew non-religious kids who would flee their parents sterile homes (like the neighbors in "National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation, one friend's dad actually decorated a "Christmas jade plant" as a halfhearted effort to be festive!)around Christmas to find a relative or a friend with an actual Christmas tree, who celebrated Christmas! I believe the soul craves and needs ritual throughout life, as long as it doesn't become misdirected or an end to itself (the original meaning forgotten).

Re: Singing

[identity profile] just-curious.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 07:57 am (UTC)(link)
I like that quote! That's why I'm a fan of most of the old hymns, not only because they sound beautiful, but because of what they teach. I mean, take "When I survey the Wondrous Cross". It's a beautiful song:

"When I survey the wondrous cross
On which the Prince of glory died,
My richest gain I count but loss,
And pour contempt on all my pride.

Forbid it, Lord, that I should boast,
Save in the death of Christ my God;
All the vain things that charm me most,
I sacrifice them to His blood.
"

I mean, that's amazing! It's such a powerful song, teaching us about Christ's sacrifice and how little we deserve it, and also teaching us! Sigh... they just don't write it like that anymore!

And very witty, that last statement I thought was very deep and spiritual, until I actually got it. It's been an eleven hour day at uni doing a BA, I'm too tired to actually think philosophical thoughts!

Re: Singing

[identity profile] just-curious.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 08:00 am (UTC)(link)
Hey thanks! Let me know if you're ever up for philosophical/Christianity debate, I love that sort of stuff!

And it's Sistah! ;)

It's just you . . .

[identity profile] noodledaddy.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 03:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Ther are ALL KINDS of people who survived Catholic school and remained Catholic. Like just about every priest I've known, and a LOT of the Knights I know, and on . . . .

Re: What it's all about

[identity profile] noodledaddy.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 03:05 pm (UTC)(link)
>the unchanging traditions that come, year after year . . .

Like dinner at our house! I like that tradition too!

Re: What it's all about

[identity profile] disneyboy.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I LOVE that tradition!

Re: What it's all about: Obviousman speaks!

[identity profile] disneyboy.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Oo! Oo!(sticking my arm up like Arnold Horshack in Welcome Back Kotter - if that doesn't date me...!) I just remembered something else that fell off my train of thought: Symbols! The power of symbolism (which is what great rituals, ceremonies, rites, ordinances, traditions, etc. are all about) - deny it at your peril! Art, music, language (both written and spoken), mathmatics, basically all the arts, sciences, and forms of communication would be defunct without the human mind's ability and willingness to use symbols. As long as we are alive and wish to relate in any meaningful way to anybody else, we will depend upon symbols! (the very type I am typing at this moment!) I mean, just the thought of living in a world where I was discouraged from creating or discovering art, because it wasn't "real" - ! Giving the intangible tangibility - isn't that what happened when (if you are a believer) the world was created, Man and Woman were shaped from the dust, the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us? I know I'm not saying anything revelatory or brilliant here, but it feels good to say it!

Re: It's just you . . .

[identity profile] disneyboy.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah - but did they remain Catholic and faithful because they attended a Catholic school, or in spite of it? Having pulled the pin on that grenade, let me say in the few moments available before I dive behind a barricade that:
-I freely admit I have NO personal experience with Catholic education to base an opinion on (other than undoubtedly biased, exaggerated stories from acquaintances and the media) - I just like playing devil's advocate :)
-I have often been told that growing up in Utah, surrounded by Mormons, is among the greatest trials-by-fire a testimony of Mormonism can undergo (several realtives and friends have assured me the greatest trial is working for the Church, sad to say)

P.S.

[identity profile] disneyboy.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
You know Knights?? Really? How cool is that? Can you introduce me to your friends? :)

[identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, speaking for myself, growing up in Utah surrounded by Mormons is probably one of the primary things that set me strongly and resolutely in my faith. Nothing like hearty opposition to strengthen one's own beliefs.

Heheh, I can't help playing devil's advocate all the time ... it doesn't comply well with being primarily non-confrontational, as I'm sure you've experienced.

Re: P.S.

[identity profile] noodledaddy.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a Knight. Come to church with us some time, maybe midnight Mass, and I'll introduce you to a few.

Mormons remain Mormons after they attend Mormon school (otherwise known as the Utah public education system), so why should it be different for Catholics attending Catholic school? Is there something about the religions specifically? I don't know. I think that Tealin knows a lot of people who have left the faith, but then I'm guessing that two things come into play:
1) It is more common for people her age to drift away from the church for a while, then drift back at a later age when they realize what they are missing.
2) There is less social pressure to continue going to church if you are Catholic than there is if you are Mormon.

A2

[identity profile] dried-frog-pill.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
It really is sometimes. Most of my friends are no longer Catholic, and my high school class was like split down the middle, between those who went into our high school with families very focused in religion, and the rest of us, who lapsed or completely changed. I've actually tried to look at the belief systems of other religions because I feel like I missed out, only focusing on Catholicism for all those years.

[identity profile] azvolrien.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Jesus Christ. And that's a smaller blasphemy than that song, methinks.

I mean, really. Some church music is fantastic - I don't think there's much that's better than belting ou 'O Come, All Ye Faithful' (my favourite hymn of all time, just ahead of 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen', if that's a hymn as well as a Christmas carol), and a church organ is a truly awesome instrument - the one in St. Giles' cathedral has to be one of the most impressive man-made things I've ever seen. But, well, for lack of a better word that song is pathetic.

[identity profile] disneyboy.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I really love that hymn, too - that is, the old-fashioned, stodgy, stately version of it. I seem to be the only person I've met who doesn't just love the sparkly, fluffy arrangement by John Rutter, which I've endured singing OVER and OVER again in SO many different ward choirs...it's all I can do to resist leaping around, in mockery of a ballerina, tossing daisies and rose petals into the air, cascading on my fellow singers, or at the very least shimmying my head and shoulders, ever so slightly, whenever we sing:
For the beau-tee of the skiiiii - hi - hi - hiiiiies! or (imagine a bunch of hyperactive beavers or ground squirrels, looking up and around, goggly-eyed, chittering):
Over-and-a-round - us-liiiiies! (LA LAAAAAA!!!,) Over-and-a-round - us-liiiiiies! (la-LAA-LAA!) or
This - ourgen - tlehymmmmmmmmn...(tra-lala-lalaaa! goes the piano)...of praaaaaaai - hey - hey - haiiiiise!!!

I really hope the "Curlz MT" typeface comes through on your computers!

[identity profile] disneyboy.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's why I'm a story artist and not a director (or a gallery artist). Embarrasing to admit, but I have happily accepted my fate, so long as I have a good project to participate in.

[identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Heeheeheehee... Oh, John Rutter. So it's not just my mom's choir director that's addicted to him – it's the whole STATE! No one up here understands why I start groaning whenever anything Rutter comes up. There's only so much one person can take in a lifetime! He's like the Thomas Kincaid of choral music!

Re: What it's all about: Obviousman speaks!

[identity profile] noodledaddy.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Symbols! Tradition! Sounds like you would love a Mass. Have you ever been to one?

A2

[identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
He went to New Year's 2000 at the Cathedral with us, remember?

[identity profile] okiwan.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a pot and you're a kettle. I do the footnote thing all. the. time.

I'm off to Pratchett land! Yipee!

[identity profile] jume.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
I think those are my two favorite carols too.

[identity profile] jume.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
Back in June, when I was staying with a friend's friend in Louisiana, I attended her semimega baptist church, which had a choir. Back at home, the congregation sang to the piano and or organ looking off of the pew hymnals. It was so strange not being able to read the music off and having to look all the way down on the first story (we were sitting in a balcony sorta thing) off a projector screen.

That might be nice for people who can't read music :/

anyways, I wouldn't've ever taken you for a religious person~

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