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Tealin ([personal profile] tealin) wrote2008-08-10 10:39 am

An Outpouring on the Theme of Dr Horrible

You thought I was over it, didn't you? Didn't you? Fools! I have been stockpiling! My dorkiness was too extreme to leak onto the internet in drip feed! I might have come to my senses and halted the flow. But now – now! – here it all is in one repository of such colossal dorkitude as may unbalance the very Internet itself.

By 'colossal' I mean some doodles, two drawings, and the world's shortest music video. It's not about quantity, though, people ... it's concentration. Sheer density. Tread with caution, you may encounter instability.


A little preamble (assuming you are actually reading this and not skipping straight to the images). I am an animator. I have always found my interest to lie more with acting and expression rather than action, which showed in my work at school, so I have spent years trying to get comfortable with moving characters around, to make up for my weakness in that area. I realized, upon starting at Disney, that in doing so I'd neglected actually learning anything at all about acting, and the gaping holes in that discipline were harder to fill in because it's so subjective.

Then, lo, what should appear in the land of the Internets but some very animated videos featuring a stage actor! Stage actors and animators both have to study caricature of movement and expression to transcend the limits of their medium (animators have simplified line drawings or virtual sculptures to work with, stage actors have to communicate across a vast distance). I've always heard one should study from live action, not animation, but most film actors are so subtle and naturalistic that you can't see what they're doing frame by frame, and I'm bad enough at caricature as it is, it seems counterproductive to make it that much harder. It'd be much easier to study what stage actors do, only ... they're on stage, and you can't stop-frame them. So here's a thing where not only does the camera linger within ten feet of a talented stage actor, but the production allows for caricatured stagey acting, and it's available in a format that makes frame advance and retreat an absolute breeze. You just pause it and use the arrow keys to move forwards and back – this works in Quicktime as well as iTunes. There's some really great material in there (I might be persuaded to post my favourite scene to stop-frame if anyone is interested in it but me) and I've spent more time this week poring over walks and expression changes than I'd like to admit.

Dr Horrible's climactic song has an especially high concentration of great cartoony expressions, so I focused on that for drawing from the screen, with the aim of both improving my expression vocabulary and figuring out Neil Patrick Harris' odd facial structure (and how expressions manifest themselves on it). It was ... really hard. Which is probably a good thing. The biggest challenge was pushing the expression so it was as strong as the one on film (ideally it'd be stronger, but I'm not there yet) and make it still look like him.

Here are a few of the more successful attempts:

At some point I realized I had seen this facial structure before, in a way ...


Right. So. All this work establishing a caricature/design to use is kind of a pointless reflex, in this case, because all the best moments have already been done, and done way better than I could do. All that's left are stupid gags. Oh well, I've learned stuff ... that's important, right?


This was a crossover that seemed a pretty obvious jump to make, especially because I'm surrounded by both sources every day, and they're surprisingly congruous. (The girl is from here - oh, the amusing coincidence of names!)


I ... this ... yeah.

OK, listen: if you haven't seen Dr. Horrible all the way though, DON'T WATCH THE FOLLOWING. It's all about what makes the emotional impact of the ending work (for me, anyway). In simple language: Hello, spoiler! If you know it's coming it won't work on you. So go watch the whole thing, come back, and .... well, that's more effort than this tiny clip deserves.

And if you do plan to watch it ... check your volume level now. Ready? Good.





Okay, someone expressed an interest, and because I need very little encouragement:


I only captured every other frame in the interest of time and file size, so it's 'on twos' as the jargon would have it. I don't think too much is lost in the translation... My second-year animation teacher taught us that acting flows outward from the brain, so things closest to the brain respond first to a change of thought and it sort of ripples out from there. Eyes usually go first, then eyebrows and mouth, then head, etc. It's neat to see it in action:



Oddly enough, it was only in doing this that I noticed that's where Penny is standing. There are still things to discover, even now!


So, now that I've thrown away what credibility I might have had, and exhausted my ideas for gag sketches, I've pretty much run out of ways to express fangirlish enthusiasm. Alas. I'll have to do something actually useful now...

[identity profile] aspectabund.livejournal.com 2008-08-10 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I might be persuaded to post my favourite scene to stop-frame if anyone is interested in it but me

This is relevant to my interests. And, you absolutely cannot post a long paragraph bragging about a pretty clip you found and then proceed to NOT POST IT. Jerk. :|

I love Mignola's Hellboy style. Your Dr. Horrible on the top, second from the left, has nearly identical facial structure to this Hellboy. (http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/765/765210/interview-hellboys-mike-mignola-20070215024537271.jpg) It also happens to be my favourite Horrible on the page. :)

[identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com 2008-08-10 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Mine too, and that's the one that made the Hellboy link for me. If only I could recreate that design in other poses...

I refrained from posting the clip because, for one, I'd have to construct it all in Flash, and Flash had driven me adequately crazy with its useless help files when I tried making the clip above (seriously, how hard is it to write 'To make a button actually do something, follow these steps...') that I didn't want to dive back in that pool again. Also I've lived the last seven years with the reaction 'What the ... just ... shut up about [most recent obsession] already!' so I'm trying to learn restraint... but this is the internet! We're all mad here! I might cobble something together. If you're curious and want to see now, it's the scene where he says 'Maybe the fee's too pricey for them to realize...' Fantastic expression changes there.

[identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com 2008-08-10 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Righto, posted the frame-by-frame. :)

[identity profile] aspectabund.livejournal.com 2008-08-12 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahaha, you bend to my will like a very bendy thing. I was going to say "butter," but, uh, it doesn't bend. So hurrah!

[identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com 2008-08-12 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
It is rather malleable, though it tends to get all over your fingers... and I think we should end the metaphor there. :)

[identity profile] lisafeld.livejournal.com 2008-08-10 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Squee! Oh, you managed to capture Neil Patrick Harris in all his evil genius glory! He does have an extremely difficult face, especially the chin/jawline.

[identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com 2008-08-10 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
YES, that is such a challenge – it's a diminutive jaw, but yet simultaneously prominent ... it's something about how it's small but slung forward ... but because I tend to use the 'down' part of the jawline to signify the tilt of the head, making it not perpendicular to the eyeline is ... haaaaaard.

Also, eye shape. Always changing! Squinty but not squinty! Flat top or arched? What the crap?

[identity profile] lisafeld.livejournal.com 2008-08-10 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I know! Seriously hard.

I tend to work around problematic faces by also drawing other people on the same show; sometimes comparing faces makes it easier to put my finger on an actor's facial idiosynchracies... although I generally do it for the strapping heroes, because they all have similar features and it's hard not to make them all look like generic leading men...

[identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com 2008-08-10 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
That is a very good strategy!

And you have also addressed exactly why there are no strapping heroes in my sketchbook. (Well, among other reasons, but that's the predominant one.) That said, not only does Nathan Fillion have an unexpectedly odd face for a leading man, but he is magically capable of pushing his face into a caricature of itself, which will make the process that much easier.

[identity profile] azvolrien.livejournal.com 2008-08-11 10:48 am (UTC)(link)
I missed Dr Horrible but thanks to the Internet, I know how it ends anyway.

[identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com 2008-08-12 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, Internet, and your terrible duality! How can you be both so magnificent and so treacherous?
ext_161: girl surrounded by birds in flight. (Default)

[identity profile] nextian.livejournal.com 2008-08-11 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Something that's easier to see in your step by step is the way he's already moving in arcs to the rhythm -- that's a 3/4 sway he has going there!

Dr. Horrible believes in the environment, eh?

[identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com 2008-08-11 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I was thinking more 'can't afford a car,' but ... sure. :)

[identity profile] missuscarroll.livejournal.com 2008-08-12 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahahah don't ever stop having obsessions and expounding thereon. It's like someone going HEY THIS IS AWESOME AND NOW I'M GOING TO TELL YOU EVERYTHING ABOUT IT AND MAKE UP SOME STUFF TOO

it's glorious is the thing.

[identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com 2008-08-12 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
See ... most people I know find that annoying.

But I'm glad you don't . :)

[identity profile] theelusiven.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
I love this. I almost want to see there be an animated spin-off of Dr. Horrible. The "Wait--what?" drawing is priceless.

[identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com 2008-08-19 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen the animated spin-off of Buffy (well, the three minutes or so that are on YouTube) and .... NO.

No no no no no no no.

If for no other reason than that the acting could never ever be as fabulous as what Neil Patrick Harris gives the camera. And really ... without that ... it's just silly.

Not that silly is bad, but ... it has its place, y'know? And when you take out everything but the silly in Dr Horrible you have The Tick,* which is a great cartoon, but it's already been done. (Not that animation isn't full of copycats, but who would want Dr Horrible to be second best?)


Ramble, ramble, ramble. Nice icon, btw. :D Glad you liked the 'Wait ... what?' – I finessed the expression on that one probably more than was mentally sound. Still not quite there but I think I'll have to get better as an artist before I can adequately fix it.

[identity profile] priscellie.livejournal.com 2008-08-15 01:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Your analysis is absolutely fascinating! Oh, man, you make me want to dabble in animation. Love the head studies and the stupid gags--feel free to lose even more credibility, any time the mood strikes you!

This is fantastic!!!

(Anonymous) 2008-08-16 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I loved watching Dr. Horrible and it's really entertaining to see these!

(Anonymous) 2008-08-19 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
is Penny's shiny new Australia still coming? :o

[identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com 2008-08-19 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
You know ... it probably is ... because I just can't stop myself. But I have to finish this darn scene at work first.

Maybe.

Darnit, now that I know someone's waiting for it ... I have no excuse not to.

8D