Order of the Phoenix Teaser
Nov. 21st, 2006 01:49 pmSome brief thoughts upon finally getting my sticky little hands on it ...
If they can make the whole movie as dramatic and focused as the teaser, I think I might possibly like it better than the bloated, meandering book. I might be overly optimistic (okay, I'm definitely over optimistic) but it looks ... it looks as though they've got my One True Gripe about the book sorted out. The fundamental flaw, I found, in the book's structure is this: The central conflict through nearly the entire tome is Dumbledore & Co vs. The Ministry. Sometimes this plays out as D'dore vs Fudge, sometimes it's Harry And Friends vs Umbridge (the representative of the Ministry at Hogwarts) but nearly every running conflict, besides a few extraneous romantic/SPEW hangers-on, is fundamentally D'dore vs Ministry. But the CLIMAX, which ought to be the high point in the central conflict, is D'dore vs Voldemort. The story completely changes track for its climax. There are little hints dropped in throughout the book that yes, Voldemort is the real threat here, but they're just in the background, kinda going 'Hey, remember? There's this evil dark wizard guy!'
Anyway, the teaser looks like it's all about the imminent threat of Voldemort raising his army, with the Ministry serving as an obstacle rather than antagoist, as it should be. This is a good sign. I hope it's an accurate representation of the real thing.
Here's the TEASER in case you're curious ... Right click/"save as" will make your life easier than waiting for it to load.
If they can make the whole movie as dramatic and focused as the teaser, I think I might possibly like it better than the bloated, meandering book. I might be overly optimistic (okay, I'm definitely over optimistic) but it looks ... it looks as though they've got my One True Gripe about the book sorted out. The fundamental flaw, I found, in the book's structure is this: The central conflict through nearly the entire tome is Dumbledore & Co vs. The Ministry. Sometimes this plays out as D'dore vs Fudge, sometimes it's Harry And Friends vs Umbridge (the representative of the Ministry at Hogwarts) but nearly every running conflict, besides a few extraneous romantic/SPEW hangers-on, is fundamentally D'dore vs Ministry. But the CLIMAX, which ought to be the high point in the central conflict, is D'dore vs Voldemort. The story completely changes track for its climax. There are little hints dropped in throughout the book that yes, Voldemort is the real threat here, but they're just in the background, kinda going 'Hey, remember? There's this evil dark wizard guy!'
Anyway, the teaser looks like it's all about the imminent threat of Voldemort raising his army, with the Ministry serving as an obstacle rather than antagoist, as it should be. This is a good sign. I hope it's an accurate representation of the real thing.
Here's the TEASER in case you're curious ... Right click/"save as" will make your life easier than waiting for it to load.
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Date: 2006-11-21 09:56 pm (UTC)Hopefully this will be one of those films that makes me like a book. I hated 'Of Mice And Men' until I saw Gary Sinise's version.
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Date: 2006-11-21 09:58 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-21 10:06 pm (UTC)Order of the Phoenix nearly slayed me. I was fourteen and had really high expectations. On the plus side, I was able to go into HBP with less-high expectations, and enjoyed in immensely.
Still, OOTP had so much crap in it. It dragged on and on and on ... It wasn't enjoyable. It was a chore to understand, and I'm still not sure if I understand any of it.
Luna was awesome, though.
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Date: 2006-11-21 10:08 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2006-11-21 11:06 pm (UTC)There were many things in ootp that didn't really matter. Like the whole Grawp thing, which I thought was boring. When I read the Hagrid's Tale chapter I was just waiting for it to end so we could get on with it. But there were still a lot of things that I liked, and I think that the good neutralizes the bad... but, like you said, it is a bloated book, and they've probably destiled it for the movie :)
Anyway, I think the trailer looks good with the Voldemort and things.
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Date: 2006-11-22 12:51 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-22 12:58 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-22 04:41 am (UTC)I', unsure if I can get pumped up for it (yet or at all..) which is really sad. BUT, maybe it's a good thing I look at it and go "maybe.." since it's a bit of a while before it comes out anyways (I hate seeing a trailer, going "aw hell yeah!" and then it's..months and months and months before it comes out. gah).
I agree with what you've said here. Most definately.
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Date: 2006-11-22 05:58 am (UTC)My only gripe with OOTP was always that the end revelation - that Harry had to kill Voldie, or vice versa - was so BLEEDINGLY OBVIOUS from a reader's perspective, that even though it would obviously be a big deal to Harry as a character, it just felt like... "Well...duh."
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Date: 2006-11-22 06:09 am (UTC)And then there's the way none of the characters seem to be really there, to the extent that new ones, like Umbridge, seem to be so two-dimensional that they'll fall over in a stiff breeze ... and the thoroughly useless subplots ... and the stupid interactions ... and an incredibly cluttered drawer of secondary and tertiary characters ... but these are all cosmetic complaints that aren't nearly as important as the rickety plot scaffold on which they're hung.
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Date: 2006-11-22 06:15 am (UTC)Yeah, I hope the adaptation to a movie that will have to be less than four hours long will help the story a lot. It seems to have worked for GoF.
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Date: 2006-11-22 01:43 pm (UTC)I liked OotP, but there were definitely parts that I was like, "oh hell, please get back to Sirius and Lupin, they're more interesting." And then JK Rowling threw Sirius through evil drapery and ruined my cruise to Bermuda.
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Date: 2006-11-22 02:56 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-22 03:31 pm (UTC)Yeah, I thought the HBO special was good. They've finally got good DE masks, too. Those spiky hoods in the fourth one were starting to get on my nerves...
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Date: 2006-11-22 05:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-22 05:19 pm (UTC)[sudden insight]
I know! I KNOW! They're taking cues from Baldrick and pursuing stage careers as slug-balancers – or in this case, caterpillar-balancers. Heehee. Man, I wish I had a screen cap of that.
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Date: 2006-11-22 09:53 pm (UTC)Actually I'm thinking about studying English at University when I finish Gymnasium (the Danish equivalent to high school).
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Date: 2006-11-23 12:34 am (UTC)I think that in some odd way the 5th book got better when the 6th one came out. Looking at both of them now, I almost feel like they shouldn't be split into two books, because the 6th one sort of balances OOTP out... ish. *muses out loud*
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Date: 2006-11-23 12:41 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-23 01:09 am (UTC)I LOVE the trailer and I have a gut feeling this will be the best movie yet. :D
Bella looks amazing, you can tell Helena is ganna do justice to the character, Luna is just like I pictured her to be like, and Umbridge, though I didn't picture her that way, is hilarious and evil, and hopefully she'll be close to canon. :D
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Date: 2006-11-24 08:56 am (UTC)I liked "L'Ordre du Phoenix", but it's my less favorite because of Siriuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus !!!!
The film will be out on July 13th, that's right ?... oh, I don't know how much time we'll have to wait in France. For GOF, it was A MONTH ! How cruel is that ?
And it was Thanksgiving for you all yesterday, so happy Thanksgiving everybody, even if I can't remember the meaning of this big-chicken-hollyday.
Disneyboy, I miss you !
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Date: 2006-11-25 03:09 pm (UTC)Am I the only one who often finds the trailers more exciting than the films themselves?
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Date: 2006-11-26 05:16 am (UTC)And Helena looks amazinnng!
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Date: 2006-11-28 10:36 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-29 01:03 pm (UTC)I'm glad you're back.
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Date: 2006-12-02 08:21 am (UTC)It's not that I don't have feelings or opinions about the rest of the posts here, but this was an easy one to tackle with a minimum of time and fuss. :)
Hey, it's the publicity department's job to make the trailer look more exciting than the actual film!
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Date: 2006-12-02 12:16 pm (UTC)