Upon Completion of Half-Blood Prince
Jul. 18th, 2005 07:00 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Done! DONE! At long last I can wander around the internet without fear of running into spoilers! And because I am utterly soulless, I already have two ideas for gag sketches.
More later, but for the moment, a couple of things:
1. Once it picked up a plot, it got really good! Imagine that.
2. I figured out who the H.B.P. was about fifteen pages before it was revealed. HAH! Last minute deductions are grand.
11:00 pm
So. My thoughts. As best as I can collect them.
Now that I have finished the book, I feel comfortable in saying that our dear Ms Rowling seems to be back on track. The last two have been kind of ... wandering ... and this one started out the same way (with better pacing and writing, in my opinion) but once it picked up a plotline and events of the story fell into step with it, it was really enjoyable to read. It moved along, I got swept up in what was happening, I was concerned for the characters ... good stuff. Unfortunately, this happened about 2/3 of the way through the book. But at least it happened somewhere. Yay, plot! Never underestimate the power of plot. Not only was there a nice throughline, as opposed to the very episodic nature of the first part of the book, but there was a nice build in tension to a climax and there was a denouement! Plot structure! Plot structure and character, reuntited at last! Goblet had character but little in the way of structure, and Phoenix had structure (though with a fundamental flaw, which I may go into if prompted) but curiously half-hearted characters – but Prince (or at least the last bit of it) had both. The developments regarding the search for the Horcruxes leave me very optimistic that the last book will have a unifying throughline right from the beginning – instead of dawdling in soap opera territory, there will be a purpose to the story right from the beginning. Thank goodness.
Aha, now onto the sticky subject of romance. Okay, I appreciate the previous comments about how it is an accurate reflection of adolescent life, but ... it just seemed ... kind of pointless, half the time. I mean, food, sleep, acne, growing pains, and going to the bathroom are realistic concerns as well, but they aren't given attention. One of the rules about subplots is that they ought to contribute to the main plot in some way, but most of the romances were distractiing tangents. And at that point in the book, there wasn't a main plot, it was just a tangled mess of unrelated subplots, which was not very captivating. On top of this, none of the romances seemed convincing. All of a sudden Harry's in love with Ginny – where'd that come from? We never find out why he likes her, we just know he likes her because the narration tells us so, and there isn't even any lead-up to it.¹ When they do get together, there's no chemistry. I just ... don't believe them. Their time together is only alluded to, and for something that ought to be so important to Harry, this seems short shrift. Hermione and Ron were probably the most realistic 'couple' with their bickering and reluctance to acknowedge their attraction to one another (though I'm grateful that, through this, JKR made mention of how romance has the potential to ruin a friendship ... too few people realise this until it's too late). Some of the other ones seemed slapped together, though ... Filch and Mme Pince? Puh-leez. Lupin and Tonks just sort of dropped into the plot out of the blue.² It's like JKR is going through her character list, finding the loose ends, and tying them together so they don't inconveniently flap around.³ I did like Fleur's arc, though. Who'd have thought she had integrity like that? That was one last-minute thing I did believe, oddly enough ... the reconciliation between her and Mrs Weasley was rather sudden but there was something more believeable about it than any of the other spontaneous flips.
Speaking of romance: I do really really hope that the events in this book will pour some cold water on the rabid Snape fan set. There will always be the core group that goes for the evil people in some sort of rebellious snook-cocking gesture, but really, folks, can you still love him after that? I would like to think there'll be a defection from the Malfoy camp as well, but it's more likely his fanciers will just take pity on the poor manipulated victimised boy who's being coerced into evil ways.
Um, yeah, R.A.B.? Does anyone not know who this is? Or could it be a red herring? Ms Rowling is not as cruel as Mr Snicket so I suspect she'd be honest about this one, but you never know.
Stan Shunpike is still in jail! Somebody get him out before he goes for the cannonballs! (Funny, this is one thing the movies have done for me... I never cared about him before. Mad. I am mad, I tell you! Good thing the third movie came out before this book, eh? Tra-la! Goodness, what did my sister put in that frappucchino...?)
I may add to this as recollections resurface. But that's it for now.
¹Does anyone else see anything Freudian in this?
²It appears Tonks is the only unmarried female in the series with taste, good judgement, and observational skills. I am speaking entirely impartially, of course. Oh yes.
³As a perpetually loose-end-by-choice who spent my teenage years railing against a society that viewed singlehood as a state of being as desirable as insanity or incarceration, I resent this.
12:02 AM
I am with Gabby on this one: Bring on the THUD! Yeah!
THERE ARE SPOILERS IN THE COMMENTS, DEAR LIZA, DEAR LIZA; THERE ARE SPOILERS IN THE COMMENTS, DEAR LIZA, SPOILERS!
More later, but for the moment, a couple of things:
1. Once it picked up a plot, it got really good! Imagine that.
2. I figured out who the H.B.P. was about fifteen pages before it was revealed. HAH! Last minute deductions are grand.
11:00 pm
So. My thoughts. As best as I can collect them.
Now that I have finished the book, I feel comfortable in saying that our dear Ms Rowling seems to be back on track. The last two have been kind of ... wandering ... and this one started out the same way (with better pacing and writing, in my opinion) but once it picked up a plotline and events of the story fell into step with it, it was really enjoyable to read. It moved along, I got swept up in what was happening, I was concerned for the characters ... good stuff. Unfortunately, this happened about 2/3 of the way through the book. But at least it happened somewhere. Yay, plot! Never underestimate the power of plot. Not only was there a nice throughline, as opposed to the very episodic nature of the first part of the book, but there was a nice build in tension to a climax and there was a denouement! Plot structure! Plot structure and character, reuntited at last! Goblet had character but little in the way of structure, and Phoenix had structure (though with a fundamental flaw, which I may go into if prompted) but curiously half-hearted characters – but Prince (or at least the last bit of it) had both. The developments regarding the search for the Horcruxes leave me very optimistic that the last book will have a unifying throughline right from the beginning – instead of dawdling in soap opera territory, there will be a purpose to the story right from the beginning. Thank goodness.
Aha, now onto the sticky subject of romance. Okay, I appreciate the previous comments about how it is an accurate reflection of adolescent life, but ... it just seemed ... kind of pointless, half the time. I mean, food, sleep, acne, growing pains, and going to the bathroom are realistic concerns as well, but they aren't given attention. One of the rules about subplots is that they ought to contribute to the main plot in some way, but most of the romances were distractiing tangents. And at that point in the book, there wasn't a main plot, it was just a tangled mess of unrelated subplots, which was not very captivating. On top of this, none of the romances seemed convincing. All of a sudden Harry's in love with Ginny – where'd that come from? We never find out why he likes her, we just know he likes her because the narration tells us so, and there isn't even any lead-up to it.¹ When they do get together, there's no chemistry. I just ... don't believe them. Their time together is only alluded to, and for something that ought to be so important to Harry, this seems short shrift. Hermione and Ron were probably the most realistic 'couple' with their bickering and reluctance to acknowedge their attraction to one another (though I'm grateful that, through this, JKR made mention of how romance has the potential to ruin a friendship ... too few people realise this until it's too late). Some of the other ones seemed slapped together, though ... Filch and Mme Pince? Puh-leez. Lupin and Tonks just sort of dropped into the plot out of the blue.² It's like JKR is going through her character list, finding the loose ends, and tying them together so they don't inconveniently flap around.³ I did like Fleur's arc, though. Who'd have thought she had integrity like that? That was one last-minute thing I did believe, oddly enough ... the reconciliation between her and Mrs Weasley was rather sudden but there was something more believeable about it than any of the other spontaneous flips.
Speaking of romance: I do really really hope that the events in this book will pour some cold water on the rabid Snape fan set. There will always be the core group that goes for the evil people in some sort of rebellious snook-cocking gesture, but really, folks, can you still love him after that? I would like to think there'll be a defection from the Malfoy camp as well, but it's more likely his fanciers will just take pity on the poor manipulated victimised boy who's being coerced into evil ways.
Um, yeah, R.A.B.? Does anyone not know who this is? Or could it be a red herring? Ms Rowling is not as cruel as Mr Snicket so I suspect she'd be honest about this one, but you never know.
Stan Shunpike is still in jail! Somebody get him out before he goes for the cannonballs! (Funny, this is one thing the movies have done for me... I never cared about him before. Mad. I am mad, I tell you! Good thing the third movie came out before this book, eh? Tra-la! Goodness, what did my sister put in that frappucchino...?)
I may add to this as recollections resurface. But that's it for now.
¹Does anyone else see anything Freudian in this?
²It appears Tonks is the only unmarried female in the series with taste, good judgement, and observational skills. I am speaking entirely impartially, of course. Oh yes.
³As a perpetually loose-end-by-choice who spent my teenage years railing against a society that viewed singlehood as a state of being as desirable as insanity or incarceration, I resent this.
12:02 AM
I am with Gabby on this one: Bring on the THUD! Yeah!
THERE ARE SPOILERS IN THE COMMENTS, DEAR LIZA, DEAR LIZA; THERE ARE SPOILERS IN THE COMMENTS, DEAR LIZA, SPOILERS!
no subject
Date: 2005-07-19 11:05 pm (UTC)Ooh, it's gonna be hard finding it...
Mundungus involved?
Date: 2005-07-20 06:06 am (UTC)COME ON!
Date: 2005-07-20 08:19 am (UTC)wouldnt it be too mad if they buried him ALIVE!
1) hes 150 years old
2) Hes weakned by the potion
3) Snape cursed him with Avada Kedavra
4) He fell down from the highest point on hogwarts
5) they BURIED HIM!!!
THe odds isnt good eh?
Re: A Horcrux
Date: 2005-07-20 10:31 am (UTC)_________
Rainbowchild
no subject
Date: 2005-07-20 05:24 pm (UTC)With Rowling, nothing is what it seems. I'm sure there will be a complicated twist in book six and I really gave HBP a lot of thinking. Snape is not completely evil and is on the way to redemption...
By the way I've got some potter fanarts on my livejournal, also animation inspired, if you are interested. As you always have, you rock. And your stuff really gained in maturity and personality.
HBP
Date: 2005-07-20 07:29 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-21 03:33 am (UTC)Great art on your main site. Can't wait for the HBP stuff (even if you don't love Snape!)
Might be good to read this
Date: 2005-07-21 09:12 am (UTC)Re: WARNING- SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 2005-07-21 10:21 am (UTC)i like the idea of dumbledore and snape planning the whole thing sounds interesting... but if i was dumbledore i wouldnt have wanted to be killed! *cries* i'm a coward!
and i never even thought of sirius' brother... i'm also dumb. :)
emily xxx
Horcruxes and Art
Date: 2005-07-21 04:12 pm (UTC)Me and my friends went to school on Monday after reading HBP, met up and literally the first thing we said to each other was (guardedly of course!) "Harry's a thing!" Now, if you aren't all on the same wavelength as me and my trusty friends, let me explain -
Voldemort made the Horcruxes with a part of his soul in each, to keep him alive. Now, isn't it possible that when he tried to kill Harry, when the spell went wrong he accidentally made Harry a horcux? We all know that some part of Voldemort is in Harry (and we assume that that is what makes Harry able to speak parceltongue), and wouldn't it make sense for it to be part of his soul?
Sadly, this would mean that in order for Voldemort to die, Harry must find a way of destroying that part of his soul. But we think it's a good theory!
R.A.B. definitely sounds like Regulus Black, but I myself will hold out for someone else (I haven't yet thought who). It doesn't quite ring true to me...
Anyway, yes, great artwork, I really love the HP and the Pratchett stuff you've drawn, and would love to see some more of Vimes! I too think he looks like Richard D. Anderson.
Re: Horcruxes and Art
Date: 2005-07-22 02:26 am (UTC)Just Stuff About the Book
Date: 2005-07-22 09:40 pm (UTC)Also, I can remember several times in the book where I found myself going 'Oh my god! I recognize that name/place/incident/etc. Where is it?' and found myself tearing through the other books to find it. I even lost my place once when Remus mentioned Fenrir and I had to go back to the beginning and find him. Took me ten minutes to find my place again.
no subject
Date: 2005-07-23 09:02 pm (UTC)I just feel very proud of this and wanted to share ...
no subject
Date: 2005-07-24 04:55 am (UTC)Cheers! Kibeth.
SNAPE IS NOT EVIL!!!
Date: 2005-07-24 08:37 pm (UTC)And although I'm not exactely sure why Dumbledore wanted to die at this point, I have a few theories(and no, I don't think it all had to do with Malfoy. Little git.) Okay, this may be corny, but in Star Wars, just before Obi-Wan Kenobi is killed by Darth Vader(teacher and student, a student eventually reclaimed from the dark side, hmmm, anyone see a connection here?), Kenobi says that if he dies, he will become more powerful than ever. Because he's part of the Force. And since the Force is just another name for the energy of the universe, it's safe to assume that Dumbledore is now part of that energy, and therefore all around. "He will only be gone from the school when none here are loyal to him" - literally true.
Also, Dumbledore's familiar was a phoenix! Rebirth! (in some capacity, anyhow)
And, although I know it's not quite the same, Dumbledore is in the Headmaster's office, in a portrait on the wall. I truly don't think he'll be sleeping all through the next book.
Umm, okay, on another note:
Although it was pretty thrown together, I just have to say this - TONKS AND LUPIN ARE SO DARN CUTE! I hope we see a little more romance between them, although I don't have high hopes.
The Prophecy
Date: 2005-07-25 07:28 pm (UTC)Look back to the prophecy. You know the lines that say,
"...and either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives."
We all assumed that this fortold an ultimate showdown between Harry and Voldemort... but does it? It was spoken, so you don't know where the capitals go, but here's my theory. Instead of the above quote, what about:
"and either must die at the hand of The Other for neither can live while The Other survives."
Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but JKR stated at some point that she worded the phopecy very carefully, so as not to give anything away, right? Well, if it seem so obvious to everyone that Harry has to take on Voldemort, that can't be what she meant, now can it? I think there's a third party/person here. What do you all think?
Re: A Horcrux
Date: 2005-07-27 02:49 am (UTC)Re: COME ON!
Date: 2005-07-27 08:19 am (UTC)http://www.dumbledoreisnotdead.com
What do you think???
Re: A Horcrux
Date: 2005-07-27 08:22 am (UTC)Regulus IS the R.A.B.?
Date: 2005-07-27 01:11 pm (UTC)where Harry and the others clean up in Grimmauld place...think its where they clean the drawer
Thats what they also found: "A dusty old locket, none of them could open."
think its the Horcrux and Regulus hide it in his home...after destroyed the horcrux inside.
Re: COME ON!
Date: 2005-07-27 01:28 pm (UTC)Re: SNAPE IS NOT EVIL!!!
Date: 2005-07-28 08:27 am (UTC)but, it is also a really big coincidence that Dumbldore drug Harry off to the cave the night Draco brought the Death Eaters in, forcing Snape to do the deed that "maybe he didn't want to do [it] anymore".
Re: COME ON!
Date: 2005-07-28 05:14 pm (UTC)chocolate frogs
Date: 2005-07-28 05:18 pm (UTC)Re: The Prophecy
Date: 2005-07-28 05:22 pm (UTC)