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Done! DONE! At long last I can wander around the internet without fear of running into spoilers! And because I am utterly soulless, I already have two ideas for gag sketches.

More later, but for the moment, a couple of things:
1. Once it picked up a plot, it got really good! Imagine that.
2. I figured out who the H.B.P. was about fifteen pages before it was revealed. HAH! Last minute deductions are grand.

11:00 pm

So. My thoughts. As best as I can collect them.

Now that I have finished the book, I feel comfortable in saying that our dear Ms Rowling seems to be back on track. The last two have been kind of ... wandering ... and this one started out the same way (with better pacing and writing, in my opinion) but once it picked up a plotline and events of the story fell into step with it, it was really enjoyable to read. It moved along, I got swept up in what was happening, I was concerned for the characters ... good stuff. Unfortunately, this happened about 2/3 of the way through the book. But at least it happened somewhere. Yay, plot! Never underestimate the power of plot. Not only was there a nice throughline, as opposed to the very episodic nature of the first part of the book, but there was a nice build in tension to a climax and there was a denouement! Plot structure! Plot structure and character, reuntited at last! Goblet had character but little in the way of structure, and Phoenix had structure (though with a fundamental flaw, which I may go into if prompted) but curiously half-hearted characters – but Prince (or at least the last bit of it) had both. The developments regarding the search for the Horcruxes leave me very optimistic that the last book will have a unifying throughline right from the beginning – instead of dawdling in soap opera territory, there will be a purpose to the story right from the beginning. Thank goodness.

Aha, now onto the sticky subject of romance. Okay, I appreciate the previous comments about how it is an accurate reflection of adolescent life, but ... it just seemed ... kind of pointless, half the time. I mean, food, sleep, acne, growing pains, and going to the bathroom are realistic concerns as well, but they aren't given attention. One of the rules about subplots is that they ought to contribute to the main plot in some way, but most of the romances were distractiing tangents. And at that point in the book, there wasn't a main plot, it was just a tangled mess of unrelated subplots, which was not very captivating. On top of this, none of the romances seemed convincing. All of a sudden Harry's in love with Ginny – where'd that come from? We never find out why he likes her, we just know he likes her because the narration tells us so, and there isn't even any lead-up to it.¹ When they do get together, there's no chemistry. I just ... don't believe them. Their time together is only alluded to, and for something that ought to be so important to Harry, this seems short shrift. Hermione and Ron were probably the most realistic 'couple' with their bickering and reluctance to acknowedge their attraction to one another (though I'm grateful that, through this, JKR made mention of how romance has the potential to ruin a friendship ... too few people realise this until it's too late). Some of the other ones seemed slapped together, though ... Filch and Mme Pince? Puh-leez. Lupin and Tonks just sort of dropped into the plot out of the blue.² It's like JKR is going through her character list, finding the loose ends, and tying them together so they don't inconveniently flap around.³ I did like Fleur's arc, though. Who'd have thought she had integrity like that? That was one last-minute thing I did believe, oddly enough ... the reconciliation between her and Mrs Weasley was rather sudden but there was something more believeable about it than any of the other spontaneous flips.

Speaking of romance: I do really really hope that the events in this book will pour some cold water on the rabid Snape fan set. There will always be the core group that goes for the evil people in some sort of rebellious snook-cocking gesture, but really, folks, can you still love him after that? I would like to think there'll be a defection from the Malfoy camp as well, but it's more likely his fanciers will just take pity on the poor manipulated victimised boy who's being coerced into evil ways.

Um, yeah, R.A.B.? Does anyone not know who this is? Or could it be a red herring? Ms Rowling is not as cruel as Mr Snicket so I suspect she'd be honest about this one, but you never know.

Stan Shunpike is still in jail! Somebody get him out before he goes for the cannonballs! (Funny, this is one thing the movies have done for me... I never cared about him before. Mad. I am mad, I tell you! Good thing the third movie came out before this book, eh? Tra-la! Goodness, what did my sister put in that frappucchino...?)

I may add to this as recollections resurface. But that's it for now.

¹Does anyone else see anything Freudian in this?

²It appears Tonks is the only unmarried female in the series with taste, good judgement, and observational skills. I am speaking entirely impartially, of course. Oh yes.

³As a perpetually loose-end-by-choice who spent my teenage years railing against a society that viewed singlehood as a state of being as desirable as insanity or incarceration, I resent this.


12:02 AM
I am with Gabby on this one: Bring on the THUD! Yeah!

THERE ARE SPOILERS IN THE COMMENTS, DEAR LIZA, DEAR LIZA; THERE ARE SPOILERS IN THE COMMENTS, DEAR LIZA, SPOILERS!
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Date: 2005-07-19 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gabbysun.livejournal.com
I never figured the HBP out until the actual revealing, and then it was brutally obvious and everything fell on me like a ton of bricks and I facepalmed and duh'd myself because seriously. Duh.

GAG SKETCHES! I love it when you're soulless! (I am actually yearning for something to lighten the atmosphere up; seriously, the internet is so worked up about the book that I AM AFRAID. UTTERLY AFRAID.)

Also, Mollywobbles. LOL.

Date: 2005-07-19 01:30 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
As soon as it mentioned "cramped handwriting", I became suspicious... then I realized that all the spells were from the Pensieve scene, and it was a Potions book and I was like OH!! But I didn't think that he would be... oh, can't say.

Date: 2005-07-19 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fryingpanofdoom.livejournal.com
I thought it was... well, who it was really early on, then they said that the book was "a little less than fifty years" and as he was in the school 30? years ago, it threw me off.

Date: 2005-07-19 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ereva.livejournal.com
Raise your hand if you think you know who R. A. B. is? Ooh! Ooh! *raises hand and waves madly*
I was so angry with myself for not guessing who the HBP was, though I should have after Sectumsempra, which I actually remembered when it first came up, I just didn't make the connection. *headdesk*
Personally, I'm astonished Harry didn't pick it up. And by the way...was I the only one who heard the agonized screaming of 'shippers everywhere when the romance started kicking in?

Gag sketches! Gag sketches! Gag sketches are GOOD.

Date: 2005-07-19 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gabbysun.livejournal.com
*raises hand too!* And I never would have even known the name if it hadn't been for fandom. I take no pride in this fact.

Hee, JK was totally poking fun at all the crazy pairings. Seriously, it's a madhouse when it comes to shipping in HP. Did not need all that PDA.

Date: 2005-07-19 02:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gabbysun.livejournal.com
You know, I didn't even notice that bit until the internet pointed it out.

I am amazingly dense when it comes to mysteries, even when they aren't that much of a mystery, really.

Date: 2005-07-19 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ereva.livejournal.com
Despite the fact that it was an intensely emotional scene, I couldn't help but CACKLE at the romance happening in the hospital wing. In particular, Harry FINALLY finds out whats wrong with Tonks...
Oh, how hard I laughed. Probably because I'd just finished crying.

Date: 2005-07-19 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com
Well, who's to say he got the book new? I own books that are older than me ... he could have gotten a used copy, or maybe a copy that'd been sitting in the back room of Flourish & Blotts for twenty years. It's not like it was published with all the notes in already.

What baffled me was why no one (in the story) suspected it may have been Tom Riddle's book. Hello? Which other significant book was dated at fifty years old? Duh. Oh well. Too late now.

Date: 2005-07-19 04:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fryingpanofdoom.livejournal.com
It was a little less than fifty years old, so Voldemort would be out of school. My sister has the book right now, so I can't look it up, but I think that did occur to Hermione. (They mention the age at one of the points that Hermione starts complaining, and Ginny stands up for Harry, I think)
I still think that that dating was a bit unfair.

Date: 2005-07-19 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com
I think it was a red herring.

Date: 2005-07-19 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sammysmee.livejournal.com
i think R.A.B is sirus's brother i could be wrong but meh

HBP

Date: 2005-07-19 11:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelowkeyloki.livejournal.com
i'm pushing for Regulus too...they say he got kind of deep into the death eaters after all - or maye he got too deep into the order of the phoenix, who knows?

as for all the love affairs in gryffindor tower - probably a counterstory for all of the love Riddle did not receive, like not having family love-therefore not being able to experience it, and back up for the type of love Dumbledore kept promoting (the type that isn't based wholly on hormones.)

anyody else thinking that Dumbledore wanted to be killed, like he and Snape had planned it?

Re: HBP

Date: 2005-07-19 12:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fryingpanofdoom.livejournal.com
Completely agreed. Dumbledore was begging. He was NOT the type to beg to not be killed. I think it was to protect Malfoy's soul, and Snape was under the same instruction as Harry. He had to do what Dumbledore asked.
Oh, and I totally agree with THUD! And I have an urge to read Where's my Cow. THUD! looks really good. I was just reading the summary.

Re: HBP

Date: 2005-07-19 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com
THERE'S A SUMMARY?!

Re: HBP

Date: 2005-07-19 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phantom-drummer.livejournal.com
I honestly didn't think about that possibility until my sister brought it up, and it totally makes sense. As Harry said, Snape is a very good Occlumens, but now I find it hard to believe that even he could fool Dumbledore. If he was the greatest wizard in the world (and we all know he was), he would've seen through anyody's mind, including Snape's. And Dumbledore wouldn't have said he completely trusted someone without the utmost severity, I think.

Re: HBP

Date: 2005-07-19 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fryingpanofdoom.livejournal.com
amazon.co.uk/ then go to THUD!; I also think it's on Lspace. Or you could just go to my journal; I posted it and one I found from somewhere else there. It's the 7/17 entry.

Date: 2005-07-19 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com
Vode!! I tried looking it up on Amazon.com to see if they had a blurb yet, but no luck. So that's where Where's My Cow? comes from! Even voder! Wheee!! Thank you!

Date: 2005-07-19 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-ida.livejournal.com
im terribly sorry
but i dont know who R.A.B. is :-s

i thought of Regulus Black but.... TELL ME TELL ME TELL ME!!!

Date: 2005-07-19 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com
That's what I'm talking about... that's the conclusion that automatically springs forward. You got it.

Date: 2005-07-19 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-ida.livejournal.com
so you mean it Regulus Black? or...do i dont get a thing here

(psst adore your harry drawing )

WARNING- SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Date: 2005-07-19 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] octaveleap.livejournal.com
The romantic parts were making me physically ill at times. Lupin/Tonks absolutely pissed me off. ... whatever... I know it's rowling's decision but JEEZ. Does EVERYONE have to be paired?

I was also of the hardcore Snape fandom at one point. ... so the last few chapters absolutely sucked for me. it was like having the rug yanked out from under me. I suppose I share Dumbledore's sense of faith in the overall goodness of humanity and was therefore TOTALLY UNWILLING to believe the truth about him... and the fact that he was such an antisocial type really made me want to see him redeemed. But now I'm thinking of making a tribute called "The Day the Fandom Died" or something. Or maybe "I formed a FANCLUB for you, you miserable, treacherous bastard!" Gah. I'm still so sad about it.

One thing that book five had, that I missed in this book, was that book 5 filled you with righteous anger and eagerness to "fight the power". It's exhilarating to get into that kind of mob mentality sometimes (in moderation, of course, in moderation.) But this book was just... sad. I came out of it feeling really depressed. But then, a big part of my fandom died.

Date: 2005-07-19 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
why'd evreyone assuming Dumbledore is actually dead? Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but I'm wondering if the potion he consumed may have made him sick, but numbed his system to the avada kedavra...

That and I think we've finally found out what the scar really is.

Date: 2005-07-19 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com
Whether or not it had power over the curse, it wouldn't have power over a drop from the Astronomy Tower which, as you may recall, is the highest point of the very very high Hogwarts Castle. No, I think it's pretty definite.

A Horcrux

Date: 2005-07-19 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I am almost positive that it is Sirius' deceased Death Eater brother, and I have a feeling that the horcrux he stole is hidden in the locket Harry couldn't open, back when they were cleaning all the evil clutter out of Grimmauld Place.

Date: 2005-07-19 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com
Wow, somebody's got a memory. I do hope Mundungus Fletcher isn't wrapped up in this ....
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