*Wanders in off the street* Sorry, came for the Discworldy goodness, and end up in R&Gness... (did I mention I loff your Carrot?)
Anyway, a pervailing theory about R&G as portrayed in the movie between my friends and I is that subconsciously Rosencrantz and Guildenstern know they are fictional characters within a book (thus even they cannot tell who is who), and know that thier fates- acted out continiously in the dumb plays (a technique, you no doubt know, lifted from Shakespeare). The forest is character limbo- since they themselves are never defined other than the passing references within Hamlet, they, in effect, have no history save the day they were summoned. Much of the movie (book, play, etc...) is about them trying to fight what they subconsciously know is going to happen, but they're just actors caught in the play, unable to deviate from the script. (This is acted out both by the players, (who are in essence the audience, well ready to lead the duo to their death) and in the movie (at least, I forgotten the book) by Oldman's character (I refuse to give them set names) attempts at discovering the world outside the book- his fiddling in physics, as it were). They accept their fate in the end because of this subconscious knowledge, and the fact that they've been let on that they'll have another go, soon enough.
Hope that's not TOO confusing. All else fails, think like Carrot. Works for me.
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Date: 2005-09-13 05:02 am (UTC)Anyway, a pervailing theory about R&G as portrayed in the movie between my friends and I is that subconsciously Rosencrantz and Guildenstern know they are fictional characters within a book (thus even they cannot tell who is who), and know that thier fates- acted out continiously in the dumb plays (a technique, you no doubt know, lifted from Shakespeare). The forest is character limbo- since they themselves are never defined other than the passing references within Hamlet, they, in effect, have no history save the day they were summoned. Much of the movie (book, play, etc...) is about them trying to fight what they subconsciously know is going to happen, but they're just actors caught in the play, unable to deviate from the script. (This is acted out both by the players, (who are in essence the audience, well ready to lead the duo to their death) and in the movie (at least, I forgotten the book) by Oldman's character (I refuse to give them set names) attempts at discovering the world outside the book- his fiddling in physics, as it were). They accept their fate in the end because of this subconscious knowledge, and the fact that they've been let on that they'll have another go, soon enough.
Hope that's not TOO confusing. All else fails, think like Carrot. Works for me.