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I.
Has anyone seen The Three Caballeros lately? What was up with that??

II.
Viva el aire condicionado! (I don't know any Spanish!)

III.
Disneyland has a population of feral cats! It gets cooler every time I visit. Except when it's hot. REALLY HOT.

Date: 2008-04-28 12:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gmonkey42.livejournal.com
I haven't seen it lately but I vaguely remember it from childhood. They were three birds from different Latin American countries and they told stories. I was too young to spot whether it was racist - hell, I saw Song of the South around that age and didn't pick up on anything - but I'm guessing it probably was.

Date: 2008-04-28 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bleupencil.livejournal.com
I watched it a little while ago - and now you mention it, that darn Baia song has become lodged in my head again.

Loved it as a kid - crazy stuff!

Ew. Hot smelly catpee Disneyland.

Have YOU been to Baia?

Date: 2008-04-28 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com
I don't know if it was racist, but it was seriously on something.

Date: 2008-04-28 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com
I have not been to Baia ... if you can jump out of the screen and pull me into a rear-screen-projection world with dancing buildings, I invite you to do so because that'd be some keen reference.

Disneyland is remarkably odourless (unless you count popcorn and churros), but even the mighty power of the Walt Disney Company cannot change the weather. I just think it's cool that it's home to a secret population of cats.

Date: 2008-04-28 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fani.livejournal.com
1. YES. LOVE IT. (even with the nonsense crack)

2....er. It's nice weather here I'm not een having air conditioner

3. Never been there

AHAHAHA JE RETROUVE LE BOILING ROCK MADAM.

Date: 2008-04-28 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sp34k.livejournal.com
Oooh, I remember The Three Caballeros and all its magical, rainbow colored madness. I remember thinking that it didn't make any sense whatsoever but was still fun to watch.

Date: 2008-04-28 02:27 am (UTC)

Date: 2008-04-28 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frabjous-mimes.livejournal.com
I loved that movie as a kid! We're three happy chappies, in snappy sarapis... I remember I got bored at the more live-action parts. I didn't have a great attention span.

Date: 2008-04-28 04:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] canisdoofus.livejournal.com
Ooh! I wish Jose Carioca was a more mainstream Disney character! He was so cute! That movie was great up until they got to Mexico and met up with trigger-happy Sonny from Cocoa Puffs (though I do appreciate the more liberal inclusion of firearms in cartoons which are today taboo... what can I say? I am a gun nut :P)! That dude was annoying, and the whole Mexico sequence was way too long and even trippier than the dancing buildings of Bahia!

I wish they had touched upon more of Latin America and cut the Mexico sequence by a quarter. Cuba for instance has extremely unique birdlife, including the Bee Hummingbird -- world's smallest bird, and the Grassquit. This movie was filmed way before Castro took over so there wouldn't have been any political controversies at the time. Also Panama, Venezuela, Costa Rica, Puerto Rico, and Dominican Republic are just as cool. I've got nothing against Mexico -- in fact I love Mexico and Mexicans, it's just that I am a bit frustrated that it holds the stereotype monopoly on what Americans perceive as "Latin". You don't know how much it irks me whenever I'll be in a place like oh? Pittsburgh, and say something in Spanish, and people ask me 'Are you Mexican?'!!! No! Do I look Mexican? How many blonde Mexicans do you know? Honestly! No, I am Cuban... yes there are other countries in this hemisphere where Spanish is spoken besides Mexico!

Oh, and it's Aire Condicionado. ;)

Date: 2008-04-28 04:59 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] infiniteviking
1. Ah, the Caballeros! I saw it when I was a kid and still want to see it again (though in this I may be in error).

3. Aww, kitties!

Date: 2008-04-28 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com
I totally understand where you're coming from, but a cast that involved the introduction and inclusion of a representative of every country south of the U.S. would have made for a very long and burdensome film...

And everyone knows all Mexicans LOVE to shoot their guns in the air all the time. :)

Date: 2008-04-28 06:51 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mellifluous-ink.livejournal.com
III. Disneyland is technically an Animal Sanctuary, too. We let cats run about to keep away Mickey's relatives. He um, he doesn't get on well with his family, I guess.

I think the only thing we don't have is fish, but I could be wrong. I just know the water has, like, food dye in it, because I work behind Jungle Cruise. It's pretty cool. We have bottle-green water. Rock.

Date: 2008-04-28 01:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copperbadge.livejournal.com
I blame Disney for much of the trauma of my youth. I was fascinated by the Pink Elephants sequence in Dumbo, and The Three Caballeros was one of my favourite cartoons.

I like to think that for about forty years everyone at Disney was just high as a kite, all the time.

Date: 2008-04-28 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com
We were wondering if they might keep down the duck population as well, as we saw two or three duck families in Rivers of America but yet the place is not overflowing with ducks. I don't know if I prefer avian population control via Baby Duck Kitty Num-Nums or Fantasmic... |: )

The water cycles through the whole park, doesn't it?

Date: 2008-04-28 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azvolrien.livejournal.com
I don't think I've ever watched the whole thing, but I've seen some of the trippier clips on YouTube. Well, I say 'trippier'; I don't know if the whole thing's like that or not.

Feral cats? Neat! Try not to get bitten by any of 'em - you never know where those things have been.

Date: 2008-04-28 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ardys-the-ghoul.livejournal.com
Oh my gosh, I thought I was the only one who remembered "Heffalumps and Woozles"! I watched Pooh Bear all the time when I was a kid!

Date: 2008-04-28 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com
It is ALL that trippy. If not more so. And YouTube doesn't have all the parts with Donald chasing the women. It's like 60% trip and 40% skirt- (or in some cases bikini-) chasing.

Date: 2008-04-28 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ardys-the-ghoul.livejournal.com
We used to have a colony of feral cats living in our barn. Well, they weren't all feral, but most of them were.

We were only able to catch one of them when we moved--Velvet, the one non-feral cat in the county. After that he lived in our garage and left us presents on the step outside the door. He lived to the ripe old age of thirteen and would probably have lived longer if he hadn't been diabetic (seriously, my mom gave him insulin injections twice a day).

That's him in my icon--the look of disgust was pretty much permanent. He was kind of a crotchety old man.

Date: 2008-04-28 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] canisdoofus.livejournal.com
Except Disney himself... He was a secret Nazi-sympathizer who's only substance was the tobacco that ultimately killed him.

I fail to see how Fantasia is "trippy" though (with the exception of the opening Bach sequence). Just classical music and fine animation is all it is. By far the most mind-twisting Disney cartoon was "Make Mine Music". It had many of the same characters as 3 Caballeros, but none of the firearms and minimal skirt-chasing.

Date: 2008-04-28 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copperbadge.livejournal.com
I remember Make Mine Music! Isn't that the one that had the Flight of the Bumblebee where the bee was chased by flowers that turned into piano keys?

Some Fantasia sequences more than others were a bit tripped out, it's true. I think it got the reputation because there was no real linear plot to follow but a lot of beautiful art; it might be normal to see hippos and alligators dancing in a Disney film, but without dialogue or extended plot it all becomes very abstracted, and probably easier to watch while stoned :D I've heard from various sources that the thing to do in the sixties was get high and then watch Fantasia.

Date: 2008-04-28 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com
I don't know about high but they were certainly drunk... the drawer-pulls on the old animation desks were designed to be bottle openers as well, and apparently there's a bush by the old animation building where Freddie Moore would frequently be found in the morning. Having spent seven years in the animation community I know very well what sort of bonkers ideas people can come up with when stone-cold sober* and I like a surreal sequence as much as anyone (probably more than some) but to make a whole film out of it?

*unless you count sleep deprived...

Date: 2008-04-28 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phonixa.livejournal.com
I. Not recently! I possibly should now that school is over and i have time to, LOL. The only part I really remember is the three of them singing with the lady at the piano (wow, that's a fancy description there, huh)

II. Vive el precipitation!

III. Ooo, I had heard about that! I had never seen any of them, but that is pretty neat. When I was a kid they used to power wash the entire park, and I remember coming in early in the morning and it smelling like it had freshly rained. MMM. When I went back recently, not the same smell.

Date: 2008-04-28 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] canisdoofus.livejournal.com
"I know very well what sort of bonkers ideas people can come up with when stone-cold sober* and I like a surreal sequence as much as anyone (probably more than some) but to make a whole film out of it?

*unless you count sleep deprived..."
Oh AMEN, sister!

As a former cannabis-smoker, and as an artist who still praises and enjoys the consumption of alcohol, I can definitely attest that the best ideas I have ever conceived on paper were done so when 100% sober. In fact, my artistic output has dropped significantly since I turned 21. However, that may be the fault of a full-time career in an unrelated field with heavy computer usage and a two-hour commute. While substances can generate wild and crazy conceptions, they deprive the user of the motivation to make them a reality.

Drugs = Crap!

Date: 2008-04-28 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] canisdoofus.livejournal.com
Yes, "Flight of the Bumblebee" is one Salvia-trip short of The Wall. And you're talking to someone who's only substance is a good Scotch and hates hard drugs!

The fame Fantasia generated in drug culture was that when it was re-released in the late 60's, all these hippies would trip and see like 12 showings of it in a row, because it was the only Disney feature film of the time with such a sequence. I wouldn't know much else, as I do not take drugs.

But yes, 1940!Fantasia is more so artsy than trippy. If anything, I can see it being more of a pot-head movie for visuals than anything else (maybe ecstasy, if the music had been recorded with modern technology, cuz it's a little too canned-sounding to be fully appreciated on any substance), much in the same sense than one would hit a bowl before going to an art gallery.

Date: 2008-04-28 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copperbadge.livejournal.com
Awesome. :D

I am in favour of a touch of chemical adjustment when making cartoons. Super-reality isn't for the world of animation!

There's a great line in Studio Sixty where the network exec says there's going to be a journalist hanging around the sketch-comedy writers for a few months:

Danny: Good, because all we’ve been missing here the last few weeks is a reporter walking around the halls.
Jordan: She’s not just any reporter.
Danny: Things happen around here, people blowing smoke out of their office windows at night.
Jordan: Tell me nobody’s getting high in this building, Danny.
Danny: You’re shocked that drugs are part of late-night comedy? The Coneheads, Toonces the Driving Cat… you think Belushi and Farley died from Lou Gehrig’s disease?

Date: 2008-04-28 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckychan.livejournal.com
When did you last go?! I was there yesterday!

Date: 2008-04-28 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com
We were there Saturday ... there were so many people it would have been almost statistically impossible to run into someone we recognized!

Date: 2008-04-29 12:51 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mellifluous-ink.livejournal.com
The cats are natural predators to the ducks, as are the hawks and owls in the area. I am not sure what the water does.

Date: 2008-04-29 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckychan.livejournal.com
Odd... it was pretty dead on Sunday.

Date: 2008-04-29 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com
They were all there on Saturday.

Spanish Translation

Date: 2008-04-29 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hey there,
I'm just a fan of your potter art, and I'm willing to translate part II for you:
Viva el aire condicionado!:"Long live air conditioning!"

Hope that helps,
A Harry Fan

Re: Spanish Translation

Date: 2008-04-29 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twirlynoodle.livejournal.com
Heh, thanks ... actually what I have up there is the translation into good Spanish of what I had written earlier in bad Spanish ... what I was originally trying to say was 'Long live the air conditioner' ... what do you call the device that cools the air? Condicionador del aire?

Re: Spanish Translation

Date: 2008-04-29 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yeah, or you can use another word, "climatizador"
Hope that helps.
Love,
A Harry Fan

Re: Spanish Translation

Date: 2008-04-30 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yeah, you can use that too.
A Harry Fan

Date: 2008-04-30 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] floramir.livejournal.com
I've been reading 'The Disney that Never Was' and it explains a lot about the original ideas behind 'Saludos Amigos' and 'The Three Caballeros'. Originally, I guess, they meant to do another film to include more countries south of the U.S. I read that the 'Blame it on the Samba' sequence from 'Melodytime' was originally developed for that purpose. Also, another cartoon about the little gauchito was worked on, but not finished, and some other stuff too.

If you haven't, you should read that book! I've had my nose glued to it ever since I got it.

Date: 2008-05-05 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckychan.livejournal.com
Just watched Three Caballeros tonight. Yeah, it totally drops acid after a point. ^_^O

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