I've Got Ankh-Morpork On My Mind

[tealin]

Sir Samuel Vimes and Wossname Mr. Carcer:



I was watching Stargate SG-1 the other day and had the epiphany: it's not Bruce Willis I see in my head when I try to concentrate on what Vimes looks like ... it's Richard Dean Anderson. Because he is, at least in that show ... Vimes – In – Spaaaaace!* Hence the resemblance. I'm not going to pretend I don't see it. There's a bit of wonkiness because I drew it at an angle (bad me) and the back of Vimes' head is cut off because that was the edge of the paper, but these are occupational hazards when you're a doodle at work.

*To be said like the 'Pigs in Space' intro on The Muppet Show.

9:16 pm
Goodness gracious I have an expensive cat.

Comments

[hlfchcknhlfsqrl.livejournal.com]

i miss the muppet show... *tear*

[chocolatepot.livejournal.com]

Oooh, lovely. So nice.

I see Vimes as a bit less...heroic looking. I mean, I see him as heroic looking in the sense of not looking like a hero. (Have to love the articulation.) Maybe it's the squareness of his jaw. *shrug*

Carcer is frightening. Obviously not to someone who doesn't know the book, but knowing the character, he's really scary. :)

[twirlynoodle.livejournal.com]

I get what you mean. At least about that. What I don't get is ... you know the character but not the book? How?

[chocolatepot.livejournal.com]

No no no. This is me being stupid and inarticulate again. (That was honestly the worst comment I have ever written.)

People who don't know the book would find the picture unscary. AS I know the character and the book and his actions, I find the picture v. scary.

[twirlynoodle.livejournal.com]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Well, that is the thing about Carcer, after all.

[chocolatepot.livejournal.com]

"heroic looking in the sense of not looking like a hero"

In that his heroic-looking-ness stems from not looking like a hero.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't see him quite like that, but still, I love how angry he looks! I also love Carcer. You can just see him saying, "I know where your house is..." in that nice, friendly way of his. Until you get close enough to see the demons, that is.
The thing I can't reconcile with Vimes is that he is very short, plain, and balding. Somehow, maybe because he isn't described clearly in any book, it's hard to know exactly what he looks like.

[twirlynoodle.livejournal.com]

He's short?

[twirlynoodle.livejournal.com]

Hmm, I was thinking more "stubborn" than "hero." Both involve strong jaws and grim determination....

[(Anonymous)]

Yup. He's described as quite short in Guards!Guards! before he had much of a personality. I wonder if that changed. They give his exact height somewhere, but I can't remember which book. I guess that's supposed to be the humor w/ him and Sybil, as she is a "city of a woman".
The terrible thing is, I know what he looks like in my mind, but I can't draw it, and no one else sees him as I do (most people give him a beard). Now that's a curse!
I like yours, though. It really gets the "Stoneface" across.

[twirlynoodle.livejournal.com]

They give him a beard? But ... no! How many shaving scenes does he have? I can think of at least two. (It's a handy way to get shot at, for starters...) As for the height, I'm sure my image has been permanently shaped by Mr Kidby's fine artwork, which has him quite tall and lanky. I don't see him quite that lanky (more... sinewy), but definitely tall. He just seems a ... not ... short ... person.
[lame]

[gabbysun.livejournal.com]

I adore how you draw noses.

And I also adore Vimes, but that's sort of like a given. 'Specially your Vimes, really.

Haven't read the book . . .

[(Anonymous)]

Which one's the good guy, which one's the bad guy?

[twirlynoodle.livejournal.com]

Vimes is Commander of the City Watch (in Ankh-Morpork, Discworld, the Multiverse, Terry Pratchett's Fertile and Abundant Brain). In any other fantasy story this would make him the villain (because watchmen are there to harrass the hero) but he's not; Vimes is a moral character, but not in an obnoxious way, who's a tough-as-nails copper through and through. So he looks nasty, but that's just because of being thoroughly battered by his job.
Carcer, on the other hand, has this description (which was easier to find than a succinct one of Vimes):

He had a demon on both shoulders, urging one another on.
And yet ... he smiled all the time [...] he appeared to be convinced, utterly convinced, that he never did anything really wrong. He'd stand there amid the carnage, blood on his hands and stolen jewellery in his pocket, and with an expression of injured innocence declare, 'Me? What did I do?'

Darn

[(Anonymous)]

I had "duck" in HTML brackets at the end of my post, but they didn't make it through. Even one a dense as moi can see who is good/evil.

Re: Darn

[twirlynoodle.livejournal.com]

Ah well, it gave me an excuse to dig out Night Watch and quote it. : )

Re: Darn

[(Anonymous)]

What timepiece does he wear in the daytime? Whenever I read "Carcer" I see "Cancer."

[salamandersoup.livejournal.com]

I see Vimes as being a bit on the short side, too, although I can't seem to recall any particular passage that says he is. My mental image of him is pretty much the Kidby version plus a few minor tweaks.

Carcer looks slightly like my despicable World Lit teacher. Who is a WOMAN. Except she never smiles unless she's inflicting psychological damage on some poor student.

Loved the Muppet Show...

[(Anonymous)]

Dude, I totally remember Pigs in Space! Wow... I kind of feel old for a 17 year-old... Anyone remember "David the Gnome"? I loved that show...

Re: Loved the Muppet Show...

[twirlynoodle.livejournal.com]

DAVID THE GNOME ROCKS! That was probably one of the most formative shows of my childhood. Fabulous stuff.

[(Anonymous)]

I looooooooooooove the Muppet Show! I wish I could see it again.

[salamandersoup.livejournal.com]

Ahh, the pointy blue hat-edness that was David. I LURVED the beginning sequence where he's clinging to the fox's tail and opens the door in the root/trunk part of the tree. I remember always being confused as to how the cigar stayed in the one character's mouth when he talked ... He had a purple floppy hat and dark hair, if I recall correctly.

Other shows: Eureka's Castle, Mya the Bee, Where in the World is Carmen San Diego?, Ghost Writer, Are You Afraid of the Dark?, Camp ... something (Kukamunga, maybe?), and some show involving a young girl and two koalas, one large and pink and the other small and blue.

[twirlynoodle.livejournal.com]

AAH! The koala show! Her name was Dot! I thought that was a figment of my imagination!

I think the cigar guy was in a different show... I don't think there were any cigars in David the Gnome. And ... wasn't his hat red? Anyway, it was good, however faulty my memory may be.

[okiwan.livejournal.com]

Does anyone remember Fraggle Rock? I used to love that show so much but nobody remembers it. The main character was a little girl Fraggle called Red. I think it used to air on HBO.

There was also this old art show on PBS with a guy and a treasure chest that no one seems to remember either.

Also Gummi Bears. Gummi Bears RULZ.

[twirlynoodle.livejournal.com]

I remember Fraggle Rock! There was the garden, and the little pea people (Dozers?) and ... it was great. I think they did a spoof of Labyrith, once. Didn't realise what it was until years later when I actually saw the movie...

The thing with the guy and the treasure chest, that was another Jim Henson show, wasn't it? Didn't he have a ... big dog or something?

And who can forget Gummi Bears?

[okiwan.livejournal.com]

no the guy with the big dog was also on Fraggle Rock I think.

the guy with the treasure chest was just some guy with a little treasure chest on his desk and then he would reach in there and take out the day's project. Maybe only I remember it becuase it was on during school hours and I was home sick a lot as a kid.

[(Anonymous)]

Old art show with a treasure chest? Sounds like antiques roadshow to me. PBS, too. I loved that show when I was little

Agreee

[(Anonymous)]

You are right with that as soon as I read your comment I thought, Jack O'Neil= Sam Vimes, how could i not see it before. The acctual picture does not look exactly like my mental image of him but since i'm not exactly sure what he looks like, I tend to go by personalities not acctual faces, if that makes any sense.
Carcer is...strange, he looks perfectly normal, but of course that is what he is ment to look like. In my imagination he always morphs into some sort of monster.
I am acctually amazzed by how far my taste in books matches yours, it is quite astonishing.